Being able to watch the sunset and night time comes, and just sit there and watch the world go by, seems like it's not gameplay.
"We always have that 'step out' moment, into the world," he says, referring to moments where you first step into the open world from a Fallout vault or Oblivion dungeon.
"Technology's changed, we've all changed, so our expectations of loading up a game and 'Okay, I'm going to step out, there's going to be this moment.' Us being able to do that and have it feel new every generation, every game, is something really special about what we do.