“That’s where the discipline comes in,” Rhame said.

“People don’t need to drive themselves crazy on this,” Rhame said.

He says if you are going to venture out do it with a small and consistent group.

“So you find another family that’s also very careful, their kids like your kids and then you socialize within that bubble,” Rhame said.

“The tradition is to come together if you really love your family this year thats what you won’t do,” Osterholm said.

“Even if you have COVID-19, if you’re doing really well we don’t want you in our clinics,” Rhame said.