Historian and author Jon Meacham said Friday on MSNBC’s “The ReidOut” that America’s Founding Fathers wanted ideas like critical race theory and “The 1619 Project” to be part of the national conversation.

Anchor Joy Reid said, “Yesterday, the  Tennessee general assembly banned critical race theory in the state.

So the fact that critical race theory and ‘The 1619 Project‘ are part of the conversation now is, in fact, what the Founders wanted.